Thnx for the update Steve, You are doing a great job. If there is anything we can do to support you to get this Government to listen to the people, please let us know. The planes continue to be a nightmare and my concern now is the Garret report indicating extending Jandakot - will this further impact on this area, plus are they creating another problem for the Canning Vale residents who also live in a hell with the Jandakot airport. Let's hope the next election solves the problem....keep up the good work.

Hi Steve,
Thank you for the update and for your support on this matter. The planes over our suburb continue to be a real pain, with some nights only a brief reprieve from midnight, 2.45am, sometimes 3.15and then recommenciing a couple of hours (5.20am) later. I cannot believe that they can't implement a curfew from midnight to 6am like in the Eastern States. Perhaps they, and in particular Anthony Albanese, would like to spend a couple of nights 'sleepover' at our place to see just how disruptive these flights are to our lives. This is a major issue for us in our household and area and we will keep this in mind at election time.

Thanks for the update Steve. I would also love to see a curfew on flights at night, you wouldn't believe the noise at our house when you're trying to sleep. I would hate to think how families with young children handle it!

Introducing a noise curfew at night, would mean that Perth will be bypassed by planes transiting thru Perth on the way east. This is not the way to solve the noise problem. I don't know what the solution is, but the people who are affected should try to find a solution and put a workable noise reduction solution to the relevant authorities. In the case of Jandakot airport, it should be remembered that the airport was there first. Those people who bought property in the vicinity knew the airports were there.

This is a perfect example of a government not speaking on behalf of the people. Have people forgot that governments were established to protect our rights, freedom and way of life. People should be outraged.

The time now is 12:52am and I've lost count of the amount of planes that have flown directly across my house..and all for the sake of what? Cheaper airline tickets and a early arrival over east?..I definitley think the cost outweighs the benefit in this case.. This horrific noise pollution is causing so much stress and friction with my sleepless partner..I think it's absolutely disgusting that this can go on.

I cannot begin to describe how stressful tha experience is. As I've typed this I've heard the roaring engines of at least 5 jets and I'm a fast typist.

Mr Irons please come to your senses and forget this insulation program. It just won't suffice. I have roof insulation and window rollershutters, and believe me, this does nothing to combat these low flying planes in the dead of the night.

It's time for a petition to be created for a curfew between 11:00pm and 6:00am, not just for my sanity but for the many thousands of affected residents in the overly congested flight path.

This is a perfect example of a government not speaking on behalf of the people. Have people forgot that governments were established to protect our rights, freedom and way of life. People should be outraged.

The time now is 12:52am and I've lost count of the amount of planes that have flown directly across my house..and all for the sake of what? Cheaper airline tickets and a early arrival over east?..I definitley think the cost outweighs the benefit in this case.. This horrific noise pollution is causing so much stress and friction with my sleepless partner..I think it's absolutely disgusting that this can go on.

I cannot begin to describe how stressful tha experience is. As I've typed this I've heard the roaring engines of at least 5 jets and I'm a fast typist.

Mr Irons please come to your senses and forget this insulation program. It just won't suffice. I have roof insulation and window rollershutters, and believe me, this does nothing to combat these low flying planes in the dead of the night.

It's time for a petition to be created for a curfew between 11:00pm and 6:00am, not just for my sanity but for the many thousands of affected residents in the overly congested flight path.

Letter on website of Steve Irons

The changed flight paths are a disaster for many reasons. No one is taking
any real notice of the problems and issues that are occurring for
hills residents and Perth residents alike. It is also important to realise
that even within the same suburb, the noise can be worse due to the
topography of the areas. For us we are in a valley and the continuous
planes going over (about every 5 mins on some days, make the whole area echo, and at night the rumbling and echoing wake us up.

Also my husband is recovering from cancer and he (and I as his Carer)
need all the rest we can get.
The planes are the latest onslaught on our noisy area, what with
Bikey groups, Western Power and the Shire chain sawing trees, traffic
and the screeching of rubbish trucks... we could say that this is
the noisiest place we have ever lived (this includes other areas of the hills,
Perth, London and elsewhere). If you are working from home, or
Retired, no one can realise how demoralising this constant noise is...
one contractor leaves and another arrives to make more noise.

After 2 years of apparently little progress with Air Services Australia
we would like to know Steve if you are willing to really push this matter
to the maximum. WE NEED THE FLIGHTS TO BE CHANGED AND WE
NEED A CURFEW from 10 pm - 7 am.

The health aspects of not sleeping and the constant noise have been
well documented in other countries - to cause heart problems and other
serious issues. We ask whether you would pursue this problem
with vigour - so that the recommendations that were made in
the WARRP REPORT are carried out, namely changing the flight paths,
getting noise insulation/compensation agreements, and a curfew.

We need to look at a major campaign across Perth, to unite all
the people who have written to your website from various suburbs,
about this issue. So far there appears to have been no united and public
effort.
Would like to hear your views on this.

Hi Jacqui,

I am not sure if Steve has the support of his party or the business community on this one - I maybe wrong!

Everyone needs to constantly complaint to Airservices Australia, and now the recently appointed 2/9/10, The Aircraft Noise Ombudsman Mr Ron Brent, www.ano.gov.au/ When these aircraft are not flying over the hills, they fly over us in Waterford and Manning! We do not fall into the high impact area therefore suspect we do not qualify for Steves Insulation Program. The last time I was prescribe sleeping tablets was when I was on Chemotherapy in 2003, I now take sleeping tablets regularly.

Not enough action has been take. We do need change, AND A CURFEW regardless of the cost to the Corporate world, QANTAS, AIR ASIA, SAA, AIR MAURITIUS, DHL and all the rest.

Good Luck, Cheers Marg. DO THEY CARE?

Hi Jacqui,

I would be very interested in discussing a campaign towards getting most importantly a curfew, then look at other options like insulation/compensation agreements.

You have no idea how traumatising the noise is where I live. I already live on a major road artery and that alone is hard enough. Now, I have a constant stream of low flying planes, flying directly across my house. They now fly over at all hours of the day starting from, and I'm not kidding 4:30am until around 2.45am the next day.

The reason I know this is because I rotate a roster at work where I sometimes get home at 1200am in the morning, and these noisy planes keep me up all the time. I can see why this would have adverse health effects, because I'm stressed out an exhausted from lack of quality sleep. It's so heart wrenching when I put my head on my pillow to go to sleep and instantly hear the distant rumble of a commercial plane, just knowing it's about to fly directly over my house.

If I tested the noise pollution around my area, I'm sure it would be far beyond acceptable. I cannot stress enough how criminal this is. By the way, I have lived in the same house for 15 years and I can tell you, I would have never moved here If I knew it was going to be like this.

My property would be a very hard one to sell now, but governments or other organisations such as Air Services Australia couldn't care less on the impact of their decisions. All they care about is their backpocket.

Jacqui, if you want to contact me to possibly get this thing started, my email is julian_c@iinet.net.au. I would be very interested in forming a mass petition to have the same luxury as places like Sydney have, a decent curfew on these machines. Let's not let them get away with this atrocity!!

It's time that politicians woke up to the fact that residential requirements for land are in many cases incompatible with airports. Airports sterilize vast tracts of land than should never be used for residential purposes. The kneejerk argument " The airport was there first " is as weak as it is fallacious. Do I have the right to disturb my neighbour because I was there first? Can I create a disturbance on a road that was built before the houses were? Of course not! I have a message for pilots from General Aviation Airports in Australia: If you make a living and in doing so destroy the environment for others then you are only half a man.

@ Richard

Mate, I respectfully disagree with your arguement. If someone moves next to an airport you have to get use to the noise, aircraft can never be silent. If you decide to move close to an airport which EVERYONE knows has a very high noise level then that is your own fault and you can't blame the airport that was there long before you.
To your examples, they aren't exactly the right arguements because being a distrurbance to your neighbour is something that is controllable, the noise isn't necessary. If you move next to an airport, they have to make noise there is no way around it. Everyone should know this, they can't blame the airport because air travel has to happen and it's been placed where it has been placed. People don't have to move next to the airport, if they make the choice then they have to deal with it, and stop complaining about something that can't be fixed overnight or in the near future.
However, if you know your aircraft the Airbus A380 is the largest airliner in the world and is extremely quiet so that will mean in about 20 years noise will be reduced so people need to just stop with the aircraft noise because air travel is needed and everything has been done at the airport to make the aircraft quieter as much as they can without endangering the lives of people on board.
Also, please do not blame the pilots, it's like shooting the messenger.

I agree that if you are moving next to an airport then a level is noise is to be expected. However all residents regardless of their proximity to that airport should at least have respite overnight. To zone residential living areas near an airport, and then have no curfew prevents thousands of residents from getting the basic amount of sleep each night that everyone needs.

The government has allowed residential areas near airports to deal with population growth and provide enough housing for people, and this is of benefit to the entire city. The rights of these people shouldn't be completely disregarded and a curfew is the only fair outcome for EVERYONE.

I see the planes, I hear the noise. Who cares? The noise from cars annoys me more but no one is suggesting that they be banned. In fact it could be your cars that are annoying me.

@ Shayne

let's get one thing clear. I am not your "mate". That would imply a modicum of kinship. Of that there is can can be none. That I can promise you. And we can peak of "respect" when Jandakot pilots learn the meaning of the word. Of that they know nothing. My beef is not aircraft that come and go - as is there wont. I have a big problem with every evening ruined by by some twin engined aircraft flying circuits, piloted by some cro magnon cretin making my house resonate like a drum waking my young children every five minutes for hours on end. They are mostly training Chinese and Singaporean pilots. Why are we training Singaporean Pilots in residential areas in Perth ?? We are training them in Perth because they won't have them made such a damn noise in Singapore!

Jandakot pilots refuse to take any responsibility for their actions (e.g. "shoot the messenger"). What relevance has this cliche? More like "it was her fault for being raped. She was in the area". They hide behind ASA and the airport. The Airport refuses to take any responsibility for aircraft in the air. ASA refuse to take any action because they are the stooges of the industry. I was thinking of another term but this would be disrespectful of the ladies of the night. This is how cowards operate. One twin engined circuit trainer trashes the environment of tens of thousands and there is no recourse.

I am not interest in you comments about some dumb Airbus. I am interested in democracy. General aviation airports doing mass circuit training over residential areas DO NOT BELONG. Get out! Your actions are not compatible with human habitation. Jandakot started in 1963 and were given a large tract of land from which to operate. They were not given carte blache to trash the environment for the future suburbs of Leeming, Canning Vale, Glen Iris, Williton and others. The airport does not own these subsurbs therefore have no right to externalise their costs in these suburbs. Easy to understand. What kind of people are you that so this btw?

What kind of benefit does Jandkot offer the surrounding community? please don't wheel out the RFD. That weak excuse is long past the sell by date. No one has ever satisfactorily answered that question.

Let's vote on this. The community versus the cancer in our midst. Let's give the men who trash our community two votes to make it fair.

I'm a Ferndale resident and we are suffering immensly with the increase in noise traffic from the planes. I've lived here since 1996 and shoud not have to move because changes to flight plans (and increased flight activity dare I say?) have occured over the years.

During the day, it's that bad that I have to stop a conversation to allow for the noise to pass. That I can handle, but what I can't handle is the frequency of air traffic between 5-7am. I've even woken at 1am from air traffic noise. Not to mention the effect this is having on my 6 month old baby who without fail, will wake and struggle to resettle when the planes are doing the peak runs day and night. I'm not even one to complain about things!!! I've silently grumbled within my household about this problem and now I've had enough.

Imagine all the other residents out there who also don't want to complain but are also suffering. I bet the numbers are huge!